Burning salt water - fuel or farce?
An article in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette describes how John Kanzius, while working with a radio frequency generating device that he is using to eradicate cancer cells, discovered that the device could cause a salt water solution to release hydrogen, which could then be burned. When hydrogen burns, or oxidizes, it combines with oxygen to produce water.
(For those of you that continually reference this site looking for the info, the frequency Kanzius was using when he discovered this technique is in the 14 Mhz range.)
So, this begs several questions in relation to the future of vehicles. First, how much power does the radio frequency generator consume to produce the radio waves? My guess is much more power than is currently used by a conventional gasoline powered internal combustion engine. Secondly, does this same process work in a pure water solution? There is a bit of an issue with using a salt water solution to release and burn hydrogen. Salt, whether sea salt or table salt, is a compound of chlorine. Hydrogen and chlorine combine to produce hydrogen chloride, or hydrochloric acid. I'm pretty sure hydrochloric acid would be a bit detrimental to most combustion engines.
But, let's set aside those major obstacles for a moment and consider how this technology could be applied to a hybrid electric vehicle. Instead of burning gasoline to power a generator to charge batteries to power the vehicle, we use salt water and burn the freed hydrogen. Even assuming that the radio frequency generator consumes more power than an internal combustion engine, the fuel is still, to some degree, completely renewable. Since hydrogen burns to produce water, most, though definitely not all, of the burned hydrogen could be reclaimed to burn again as the radio frequency generator releases the hydrogen again. So, not only is the fuel completely clean compared to gasoline, but it's mostly renewable as well.
I certainly hope more funding goes into this to eventually produce a viable radio frequency generator that could operate in a hybrid electric vehicle. Even if the batteries need to be topped off occasionally from an outside source, I believe all of us would rather fill our tanks with water than gasoline.
5 comments:
Why assume that the hydrogen need be cracked from the water in the vehicle? There are promising stable hydrogen storage technolgies, such as explained on www.amminex.net - why not assume, to start, that off-peak power from traditional plants is utilized to generate radio waves in an industrial setting, where massive amounts of hydrogen can be produced and converted to a stable, dense form, for distribution to fueling stations.
Well, that's a good point, however it assumes the need to build an entire infrastructure around processing and distributing hydrogen. No doubt it would probably work, but I would imagine that hydrogen generation on board a vehicle could see the light of day in the consumer marketplace long before a hydrogen infrastructure could.
But I'm all about building a hydrogen infrastructure if it's not feasible to extract the hydrogen with a normal vehicle's powerplant.
Sorry, but this is all nonsense. By definition, the energy used to produce the radio waves will be more than the energy released from the combustion of hydrogen and oxygen. So you're not getting energy from salt water; you're getting it from the electricity that powers the RF generator. As for the possibility of using salt water in a car to avoid the risk of transporting hydrogen, that's not going to work either. You still need to have a source of power to run the RF generation in the car. And by definition, you would do get more energy using that power source directly than using it to separate hydrogen and oxygen and then burning the hydrogen.
So, it's pointless to have hybrid cars because, by definition, the power stored in the batteries is less than that produced by the gasoline engine?
And really, your analysis isn't very accurate either. Is it a total net loss of energy? Of course, I wasn't suggesting perpetual motion. You cannot get free energy. I've not read anywhere about how much energy is used to power the RF generator, though. I have no idea if it is grossly more than the 3000 degrees that the hydrogen burns. But you know, if it is only as efficient as a combustion engine, I'd happily burn hydrogen rather than gasoline.
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